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What was your FIRST devastating, Giants football moment?

Matt Simms was a guest on a radio show with his brother Chris, and Mike Florio, talking about being a Jaguars fan as a kid. (Apparently Matt liked the Jags, because he thought their logo was cool.)

Anyway, when the Jaguars lost an AFC Championship game, Matt referred to it as his “first emotional, devastating football moment”.

It got me thinking about MY first devastating (Giants) football moment.

Back in 1965, my first year watching every Giants game, the NFL was comprised of two, 7-team conferences (East and West). At the end of the 14-game season, the winners of the East and West played for the NFL championship.

The NFL also held an extra postseason game during the 60s (60-69) which was kind of weird, as it pitted the two second place teams against each other (East vs. West). It was known as the Playoff Bowl or the Runner-Up Bowl, or by its’ official title, the Bert Bell Benefit Bowl. (Yes, for 10 years the NFL actually played a postseason game to determine the league’s 3rd best team.)

The last Giants game of the ’65 regular season was against Dallas, with the winner representing the East in the Playoff Bowl. If you don’t know (or haven’t already guessed) the Giants lost that game (38-20) and the Cowboys (not my Giants) advanced to the Playoff Bowl.

At the end of the game, I remember leaving the room, so my Dad couldn’t see that my eyes were welling up with tears. (I really, really wanted that Playoff Bowl game.) It was my first (of many) devastating, Giants football moments.

What was your FIRST devastating, Giants football moment?

Please note: I’m not looking for your MOST devastating, Giants football moment, but for your very FIRST moment…which for most of us, would have been when we were kids and not when we were adults, watching DeSean Jackson or Flipper Anderson screw us.

Feel free to share your story.
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ChrisRick : 10:50 am : link
1993 divisional round - 44-3

LT’s and Simms’ last game as Giants.

It extra sucked losing that bad to the 49ers.

Second was 1997 wild card round vs Minnesota.
'81 playoff loss to SF pissed me off  
JonC : 10:53 am : link
but believing NYG was now on the rise and had already gone further than expected softened the blow. That season also convinced me to start playing organized football in '82.
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11:02 am : link
97 WC game vs. Vikes.

Even when we were up 34-0 in 00 NFC title game, I was still a bit nervous that the game was in the bag, Haha. That 97 game scarred me that much.
Packers 37 - Giants 0 NFL Championship game 1961  
Giants61 : 11:20 am : link
It was shocking to me after the fun season. Unfortunately others followed since then, but that was my first
The Fumble...  
Blue. : 11:21 am : link
First real gut punch. Many more have followed...
The Fumble  
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Flipper  
rsjem1979 : 11:24 am : link
I was 10, prime age for being truly devastated. That was really my first taste of the Giants losing a game they were supposed to win - complete with an absolute BS penalty that set up the game-winner.
RE: 2002 Wildcard game vs SF  
In comment 17097434 Jay on the Island said:
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Fuck you Trey Junkin.


How about blaming the defense for the collapse?
RE: The first playoff game I ever attended  
In comment 17097331 cjac said:
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the 1989 game against the Rams where Flipper Anderson caught the TD pass with a minute left and ran into the tunnel and never came back on to the field.

That is really a terrible memory for me, to see them get eliminated in person like that.


I was there also...I believe that was OT
RE: RE: The first playoff game I ever attended  
cjac : 11:29 am : link
In comment 17097587 Jints in Carolina said:
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In comment 17097331 cjac said:


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the 1989 game against the Rams where Flipper Anderson caught the TD pass with a minute left and ran into the tunnel and never came back on to the field.

That is really a terrible memory for me, to see them get eliminated in person like that.



I was there also...I believe that was OT


Yeah it was overtime
RE: losing to the niners in the 81 divisional playoff game  
djm : 11:34 am : link
In comment 17097510 djm said:
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but devastating might be a little extreme. I'd probably say the entire 1985 season, primarily any Dallas NYG game. I don't think the Bears loss bothered me as much but those Dallas games were fucking brutal. Then FF to flipper Anderson memorial in 89 playoffs.


I forgot the 88 finale vs the Jets. I was there not sure how I forgot that awful day. That's on the list.
Flipper Anderson running through  
RELICDOA : 11:56 am : link
Tunnel. I had such high hopes for that team!!!
RE: RE: 2002 Wildcard game vs SF  
rsjem1979 : 11:57 am : link
In comment 17097585 Jints in Carolina said:
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In comment 17097434 Jay on the Island said:


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Fuck you Trey Junkin.



How about blaming the defense for the collapse?


It's like people forget why Junkin was there in the first place. The Giants FG operation that year had been a complete mess, Bob Jones had the yips as their long snapper and was replaced around Thanksgiving. Then Dan O'Leary got hurt in Week 16 so they had to sign Junkin out of retirement.

Then you had Jeremy Shockey whooping it up on the bench taunting 49ers fans in the 3rd quarter before it all fell apart.

The defense melted.

Shockey dropped what should have been another TD (after the Giants had 1st-and-goal at the 3).

The offense going three-and-out twice then having a shitty punt and unsportsmanlike penalty give the 49ers the ball at the NYG 27.

That was an undisciplined, weak-willed team that imploded in every single facet of the game. I used to think (and a lot of people still think) that if the Giants had won that game they could have beaten TB the next week. I'm here to tell you that they would have had their f'ing doors blown off by that Bucs defense.
Every time Roger Staubach QB'd Dallas  
JoeMorrison40 : 11:59 am : link
He would lead a 4t qtr comeback, Drats.

And the Fumble and F'ing Flipper.
RE: Playoff game against the 49ers  
Anakim : 12:01 pm : link
In comment 17097362 Anakim said:
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Well, this is the most DEVASTATING one, but the opening night game against SF pissed me off. Johnny Lynn's defense was a fucking sieve on that last possession. Garcia and Hearst tore us apart and then that fat fuck Jose Cortez nailed the GW FG.
1st Giants game...  
Porch622 : 12:05 pm : link
I can remember watching as a kid. I was 7 years old. The 1989 playoffs, Flipper Anderson's walk-off TD.
Flipper for me  
TDMaker85 : 12:09 pm : link
And the moment that I knew we were doomed was the bs pass interference on Sheldon White just before the dagger.

Runner up: Giants home loss to Eagles in '88, when LT blocked field goal only for Clyde Simmons to run it in off the bounce without breaking stride. Caveat: I was out of the country and didn't see the infamous Jets debacle live.

Honorable mention: home loss to Dallas in '87, right before the strike. Allegre just barely hooked a fg wide that would have made us 1-1. Instead, 0-2 became 0-5 and season over.
Trey Junkin was out of football that season  
Greg from LI : 12:12 pm : link
He was 41 years old and hadn't played since 2001. Also, Matt Allen, who was so bad as a punter that he made Jamie Gillen look like Sean Landeta, blew his assignment. The Giants kicked on third down so that, in the event of a mishandled snap, Allen could just fall on the ball, call timeout, and they'd get another chance to kick. Instead, Allen panicked and tried to throw a pass.

"Bummer"...I can't tell you how much I enjoyed the fact that Steve Mariucci never won shit as a head coach.
RE: RE: RE: 2002 Wildcard game vs SF  
djm : 12:20 pm : link
In comment 17097671 rsjem1979 said:
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In comment 17097585 Jints in Carolina said:


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In comment 17097434 Jay on the Island said:


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Fuck you Trey Junkin.



How about blaming the defense for the collapse?



It's like people forget why Junkin was there in the first place. The Giants FG operation that year had been a complete mess, Bob Jones had the yips as their long snapper and was replaced around Thanksgiving. Then Dan O'Leary got hurt in Week 16 so they had to sign Junkin out of retirement.

Then you had Jeremy Shockey whooping it up on the bench taunting 49ers fans in the 3rd quarter before it all fell apart.

The defense melted.

Shockey dropped what should have been another TD (after the Giants had 1st-and-goal at the 3).

The offense going three-and-out twice then having a shitty punt and unsportsmanlike penalty give the 49ers the ball at the NYG 27.

That was an undisciplined, weak-willed team that imploded in every single facet of the game. I used to think (and a lot of people still think) that if the Giants had won that game they could have beaten TB the next week. I'm here to tell you that they would have had their f'ing doors blown off by that Bucs defense.


I tend to agree. The 02 NYG offense was nowhere near as good as the folklore might suggest. They scored 320 pts that season. That blows. They got hot down the stretch while lighting up a bad dallas team and a good colts team. They were streaky but not consistent.

The sad thing is Kerry Collins and Ron Dixon hooked up for a huge play on that last fateful drive before the Junkin FG ST issues cropped up once again. Would have been nice to celebrate Dixon and Collins getting that team off the mat but it wasn't meant to be.

There's little chance that offense scores 28+ against the Bucs but the sad thing is we'll never know.
RE: The first playoff game I ever attended  
Racer : 12:24 pm : link
In comment 17097331 cjac said:
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the 1989 game against the Rams where Flipper Anderson caught the TD pass with a minute left and ran into the tunnel and never came back on to the field.

That is really a terrible memory for me, to see them get eliminated in person like that.


This is quite precisely my same answer. There’s tough losses then there’s Flipper Anderson live.
The Emmitt Smith  
Mattman : 12:27 pm : link
shoulder game or maybe the Landeta blocked punt vs the bears in the first game of the season. The previous two seasons under he who cannot be named are blocked out in my memory so I will go with those two.
The 2002 offense was weird  
Greg from LI : 12:28 pm : link
Moved the ball easily....in between the 20s. They had major difficulties getting into the end zone - 22nd in points scored but 6th in yards gained.
RE: RE: 2002 Wildcard game vs SF  
Victor in CT : 12:46 pm : link
In comment 17097585 Jints in Carolina said:
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In comment 17097434 Jay on the Island said:


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Fuck you Trey Junkin.



How about blaming the defense for the collapse?


or Shockey for dropping a sure TD? or the ref for not calling penalty on the Junkin play for PI which the NFL acknowledged the next day. Way too many other things in this game to make it an all time "devastating loss". They lost for the same reasons they always lost under Fassel: sloppy, undisciplined play and behavior.

I learned 2 things that day: 1 Shockey was a million $ talent and a 2 cent head and 2 Collinsworth is a complete idiot. Aikman saw the PI and was trying to call it out while that asshole screaming other inanities.

blaming shockey is weak  
djm : 12:50 pm : link
it was not an "easy" TD. It was one he makes more often than not but he had to time his feet in bounds and catch the pass simultaneously. Call it easy if you want but that's not the easiest play to make. Blaming the guy who went 7 catches with a TD seems odd. 38 pts should be enough. The D and ST blew the game.
RE: RE: The first playoff game I ever attended  
TheEvilLurker : 12:56 pm : link
In comment 17097716 Racer said:
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In comment 17097331 cjac said:


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the 1989 game against the Rams where Flipper Anderson caught the TD pass with a minute left and ran into the tunnel and never came back on to the field.

That is really a terrible memory for me, to see them get eliminated in person like that.



This is quite precisely my same answer. There’s tough losses then there’s Flipper Anderson live.


The ending of this game stands out in my mind.
Tucker Fredricksens  
DoctorT : 1:03 pm : link
Knee injury- But worst was Flipper Anderson
Just plain Devastating  
Big Tom : 1:13 pm : link
to me back in 1958..Ameache scores the winning TD in overtime right in front where my Dad,Uncle Tommy,and me were sitting. It still bothers me !!
A tie between the Flipper Anderson game and the '97 playoff game  
Chris in LA : 1:35 pm : link
As an aside, is there a team in professional sports that has a greater chasm between the highest highs and the lowest lows?

There are teams that have had it worse than us, for sure. But I cannot think of a team that has such a massive gap between XLII and Joe Pisarcik, to take just two examples...
I'm sure I'm the only one, but  
HammerTime75 : 1:44 pm : link
Reeves blowing his final game to Parcells in a nationally televised Saturday game at the end of '96. The Giants were ahead 22-0 at halftime and still somehow lost this game.

I was 11 years old living in New England just as the Pats bandwagon was picking up steam. Dave Meggett had a punt return TD to swing the game in the 4th...for the Patriots. Devastating. Still pisses me off thinking about it, haha
This is an easy one  
MadPlaid : 1:46 pm : link
The Fumble. That horrible moment is etched in my brain like a cyst! I was just a kid. Cried so hard, you’d think someone died.
They fekking TRADED BRAD VAN PELT!!!  
One of my favorite players - the bookend to LT, that linebacking group was the best positional group on the whole team, Taylor / Kelley / Carson / Van Pelt - why in the WORLD would they mess with it?!

In the late 70's, Van Pelt and Jennings were the only Giants who would regularly get Pro Bowl nods.

Was crushed when Van Pelt was traded.

Little did I know, he's be replaced with my NEW favorite Giant!
RE: This is an easy one  
In comment 17097821 MadPlaid said:
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The Fumble. That horrible moment is etched in my brain like a cyst! I was just a kid. Cried so hard, you’d think someone died.
The fumble is what made me a fan. I grew up about 5 miles from the stadium, down Moonachie Rd - the fumble suddenly opened up ticket availability in my neighborhood and suddenly, I could go to any home game I wanted!

Initially went for the tailgate parties, but quickly fell in love with the sad sack team.
Superbowl XXXV...  
vonritz : 1:54 pm : link
is the first, and only, devastating Giants moment for me. There is nothing worse than losing a Superbowl. It's the ultimate kick in the nuts as a football fan. Every other loss is irrelevant compared to that.
Flipper  
First time football made me cry. Giants do that to me regularly now.
i think that "extra" playoff game  
nyfootballfan : 2:21 pm : link
was called "consolation" game in the papers at least.
TA Tittle  
louinma : 2:31 pm : link
YA in his knees, the end of an era and long dry spell

Lou
If you want the FIRST, it would be Bednarik's hit on Gifford.  
Del Shofner : 2:40 pm : link
If you want the WORST, it's tied between The Fumble and the Trey Junkin game.
2002 against SF was brutal  
Blue92 : 2:56 pm : link
But I later realized the Giants would have likely just gotten curb stomped by the Bucs the following week, which took away a bit of the sting.
RE: i think that  
Jim in Tampa : 3:21 pm : link
In comment 17097865 nyfootballfan said:
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was called "consolation" game in the papers at least.

I'm sure the words "consolation game" were used to refer to that game, but my research suggested it was called the Playoff Bowl, Runner-Up Bowl, or officially as, the Bert Bell Benefit Bowl.
RE: Superbowl XXXV...  
In comment 17097836 vonritz said:
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the ultimate kick in the nuts
+1
pjcas18: There was some retconning later about Simms vs. Brunner.  
It's true that Phil's rehab from knee surgery had proceded slowly. In fact, he never regained much of his lost mobility. Parcells and Young both hinted subsequently that Brunner was a stopgap, and that Simms - whom they regarded as the eventual starter - looked creaky in camp and simply wasn't ready to play. Even Phil, who carried the chip on his shoulder for the next decade, has acknowledged that he wasn't all the way back.
RE: Just plain Devastating  
Big Tom : 3:51 pm : link
In comment 17097786 Big Tom said:
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to me back in 1958..Ameache scores the winning TD in overtime right in front where my Dad,Uncle Tommy,and me were sitting. It still bothers me !!

Anybody here at the game??
If yes,where were you sitting??
Easily the 2003 WC Game against SF  
GiantGrit : 3:51 pm : link
I was 8 years and intimately remember what I ate during the game and how shocked my dad and I were that they lost.
RE: Honestly  
Matt M. : 3:59 pm : link
In comment 17097334 pjcas18 said:
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this may seem small, but it was the first devastating moment of many. lol. I had just become a serious Giants fan around 9 years old after LT ran back the pick 6 on Thanksgiving.

So, I started watching more religiously with my dad.

They didn't start 1983 off great, but weren't terrible, I think they were 3-2 or 2-3 and then Phil Simms on a follow through of a throw hit his hand on the helmet of an Eagles player and broke his thumb. Missed the rest of the season. I was devastated.

Not because I loved Simms at that point, but I felt like at that age he was the QB and they needed him. He missed the rest of the season and I don't think the Giants won another game after that injury.
Simms breaking his thumb was also mine. After that, the 1985 playoff loss to the Bears.
RE: 97 wildcard vs Vikings  
Phil NJ : 4:18 pm : link
In comment 17097438 Dave in PA said:
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Was the first time as a “real” football fan that I had a serious interest in the game and remember being pretty upset when they botched the onside kick.

2002 meltdown vs 49ers was on a different level. I was beyond fully invested by that time. The rage and disappointment over that game has gone unmatched and truly could only be felt by a teenager with no perspective on the real world

Good times



Same. The 2000 Superbowl lost was up there too but I felt we didn't have a chance against that Ravens defense.

Another noteable mention: 2010 against the Eagles when our punter kicked it right to Desean.


RE: They fekking TRADED BRAD VAN PELT!!!  
djm : 4:31 pm : link
In comment 17097824 x meadowlander said:
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One of my favorite players - the bookend to LT, that linebacking group was the best positional group on the whole team, Taylor / Kelley / Carson / Van Pelt - why in the WORLD would they mess with it?!

In the late 70's, Van Pelt and Jennings were the only Giants who would regularly get Pro Bowl nods.

Was crushed when Van Pelt was traded.

Little did I know, he's be replaced with my NEW favorite Giant!


Wasn't Van Pelt traded for Tony Galbreath? I didn't cheat. I think I got it right. Galbreath was terrific here the ultimate 3rd down back.
My First 20 Years  
MontyPi : 5:55 pm : link
Starting in 1960.
RE: My First 20 Years  
MontyPi : 5:56 pm : link
In comment 17098138 MontyPi said:
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Starting in 1960.


I mean to say starting in 1964
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I know there's this popular belief that the '02 Giants would have beaten the Bucs, but I never bought that. That season-IMO-would have ended the following week in Tampa.

Of course 1/5/03 still bugs me to this day. I went for like a 3 plus hour walk after the game in shock. It didn't help that I had to piss every like 20 minutes because of the beer I had consumed that game initially in celebration then complete despair, Haha. Thankfully places back then weren't so stingy about 'No public restrooms'.

Anyways-to echo Greg-I'm so glad Mooch never won shit after his 'Bummer' comment. I fucking hate that man.
Last game of 1970 season. I was 10.  
BigBlueNH : 7:37 pm : link
A win against the lowly Rams and we're in the playoffs! We matched right down the field for an opening field goal, up 3-0. And got destroyed the rest of the game. We didn't make the playoffs until I was out of college, more than a decade later.
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