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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7:22 am

John Harbaugh and Joe Schoen address the media today.
Harbaugh & Schoen Speak- Breakdown of Giants Media Day At The Combine! - ( New Window )

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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10:19 am : link
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Joe Schoen on the pre-draft communication with John Harbaugh

"The process is the same, it's overcommunicating how we do things and how they did things in Baltimore, or how he wants it done. There's tweaks we can make in our process that can make us better and I'm open to that"
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10:19 am : link
Charlotte Carroll
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Giants GM Joe Schoen asked about Steve Tisch being named in Epstein files. He defers to Tisch statement: “I’m not going to comment any more on that.”
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10:21 am : link
Ryan Dunleavy
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#Giants, NFL and Steve Tisch are going to try to fall back on his one statement.

The more that comes out (and more has since that first statement), the harder it is going to be to hope it goes away.

What happens when media sees Tisch at owners meetings or Week 1 game?
Schoen better be focused on FA  
jvm52106 : 10:23 am : link
it starts with legal tampering 03/09 at noon est..
Joe Schoen  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 10:27 am : link
just comes off small and petty to me now.

We know he had a lot of interaction with John Harbaugh, but does anyone believe Harbaugh is here because of Schoen?

Harbaugh was coming here as long as (1) the Giants didn't scare him away, and (2) John Mara bent the knee on organizational change.

Let's not pretend Schoen's work in November and December got him here.

And Schoen saying his role has not changed is laughable. Just admit it dude.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10:27 am : link
Ryan Dunleavy
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Joe Schoen reiterates that Malik Nabers could be available for training camp.

That would be HUGE for #Giants. Enormous.

The rest of the NFL seems suspect of that timeline. And Andrew Thomas showed us last year that "expectations" at this time of year don't always happen.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10:30 am : link
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Joe Schoen on the Giants trading back in the 2026 NFL Draft

"We're gonna look at all options. We're open to moving back if an opportunity is there. We're also fine staying and taking a pick"
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10:32 am : link
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Joe Schoen was asked if the rehabs of Malik Nabers and Cam Skattebo impact their draft or free agency plans

"I feel good about where those two are"

Schoen says the plan is for Nabers to be ready for training camp
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10:34 am : link
Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
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Joe Schoen, speaking after his podium, said “the plan” is for Dexter Lawrence to be on the #Giants this season and he hasn’t had any calls on him.

Similar sentiment with Kayvon Thibodeaux and how you can never have too many rushers. Did say when teams call, he’ll always answer phone.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10:37 am : link
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Joe Schoen was asked about building out the Giants' roster during Jaxson Dart's rookie contract:

"You're at an advantage. When you talk about a surplus at those positions and what those guys are getting on the open market. We have some young core pieces"
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10:37 am : link
Jordan Raanan
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On Kayvon Thibodeaux…

Schoen: “Right now, Kayvon’s gonna be with us. He played well. He is going into his fifth year, and he's motivated, and you can't have enough pass rushers.”
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jvm52106 : 10:40 am : link
In comment 17108562 Eric from BBI said:
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just comes off small and petty to me now.

We know he had a lot of interaction with John Harbaugh, but does anyone believe Harbaugh is here because of Schoen?

Harbaugh was coming here as long as (1) the Giants didn't scare him away, and (2) John Mara bent the knee on organizational change.

Let's not pretend Schoen's work in November and December got him here.

And Schoen saying his role has not changed is laughable. Just admit it dude.


The title hasn't changed but then again, he is now the Giants version of Captain Dunsel!!!
Nice to get info on Cam and Nabers  
BobR in Durham : 10:52 am : link
but did anyone ask about Dex's elbow?
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Mattman : 10:59 am : link
In comment 17108562 Eric from BBI said:
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just comes off small and petty to me now.

We know he had a lot of interaction with John Harbaugh, but does anyone believe Harbaugh is here because of Schoen?

Harbaugh was coming here as long as (1) the Giants didn't scare him away, and (2) John Mara bent the knee on organizational change.

Let's not pretend Schoen's work in November and December got him here.

And Schoen saying his role has not changed is laughable. Just admit it dude.


Maybe the real power shift isn't from Schoen to Harbaugh but JM/CM/Nephew/Abrams to Harbaugh? In that context maybe not much has changed for him. It is just someone competent dictating the biggest moves now.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11:23 am : link
In comment 17108546 Eric from BBI said:
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Connor Hughes
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Joe Schoen stresses he is still the #Giants GM and his responsibilities haven’t changed. He says Dawn Aponte has different strengths and weaknesses, but her role is very similar to that of Kevin Abrams.


Sure Joe, whatever helps you sleep at night.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 12:15 pm : link
Charlotte Carroll
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Schoen did say that Thibodeaux was one of the more popular names Giants got calls about at the trade deadline. Said his job as GM is to listen but it’s early in Combine week so hasn’t heard anything yet.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 12:15 pm : link
Dan Duggan
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Kayvon Thibodeaux is slated to be a No. 3 edge rusher making $14.8M in cash/cap.

"Right now, Kayvon is going to be with us," Schoen said.

Schoen said Thibodeaux is motivated going into his fifth season and "you can't have enough pass rushers." He expects "big things" out of Thibodeaux next season with the rotation.

Schoen said Thibodeaux was a popular target at the trade deadline. There haven't been any trade talks this offseason, but he said his job is to listen to any calls.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 12:15 pm : link
Dan Duggan
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Schoen downplayed questions regarding Dexter Lawrence's status. Schoen said "the plan is for Dexter to be on the roster."

Schoen said Lawrence hasn't expressed a desire for a new contract (but those conversations could happen as soon as this week). Schoen said they haven't fielded any trade calls for Lawrence.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 12:16 pm : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Quick takeaways from Joe Schoen's combine presser:

• Schoen again declined to address his contract situation. He is entering the final year of his initial contract.

"I'm still the general manager of the team and my role has not changed. I'm still tasked with leading the entire football operation."

Schoen said there's constant communication with Harbaugh and Dawn Aponte, the new senior VP of football operations and strategy. Schoen said video and analytics will report to Aponte, who will report to Harbaugh in the organization's new structure.

Schoen called Aponte a "tremendous resource." Schoen said they're going to hire a new video director soon.

• As for the roster, Schoen said the meetings with the agents of their free agents will take place this week. He said he'd like to keep some of them, and if they leave that opens up other holes.

• Schoen continues to "feel good" about the rehab progress of Cam Skattebo and Malik Nabers. Schoen remains hopeful that they'll be ready for training camp. Skattebo told me before the Super Bowl that he could be cleared by the start of the offseason program, so Nabers' status is the bigger question mark.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 1:03 pm : link
Jordan Raanan
@JordanRaanan
John Harbaugh discussing alignment with Dawn Aponte and the entire organization. Says it's mandatory throughout the entire organization.
Wish the NFL Network would cover this  
bceagle05 : 1:07 pm : link
instead of airing Good Morning Football twice.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 1:12 pm : link
Jordan Raanan
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John Harbaugh on stopping the run: "We better. It's a must thing."
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 1:20 pm : link
Charlotte Carroll
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Giants coach John Harbaugh asked about Steve Tisch and if view of ownership has changed.

“I have great respect for the ownership”

Harbaugh says he’s he had nothing but “great conversations, great interactions” as they’ve been talking about business of football.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 1:28 pm : link
Ralph Vacchiano
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Giants coach John Harbaugh on free agents WR WanDale Robinson, RT Jermaine Eluemanor, and CB Cor’Dale Flott:

“I saw guys we want back. Now do we have the wherewithal to bring them back and is it a good use of resources? That’s the next past of the conversation.”
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 1:33 pm : link
Ralph Vacchiano
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Asked again, off the podium, John Harbaugh said this about Steve Tisch/Jeffrey Epstein:

“Steve put out a statement where he expressed regret. That’s where it stands for me. That’s where I’m at.” 👇
While I have my own opinions on  
jvm52106 : 1:36 pm : link
Steve Tisch, it is clearly not Harbaugh's issue or place to get involved in that stuff, right now. His focus is on the team, the team and the team..

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bw in dc : 1:46 pm : link
In comment 17108785 jvm52106 said:
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Steve Tisch, it is clearly not Harbaugh's issue or place to get involved in that stuff, right now. His focus is on the team, the team and the team..


I wish this Tisch issue would just keep getting bigger and bigger. The organization needs to be free from his hideous odor. I can only hope the local media keeps the subject alive. But I doubt it.

But it is unfair - to your point - to expect Harbaugh to say anything with substance/criticism. If he did, this thing would blow up. I would enjoy that, but Harbaugh needs to focus on getting the football program built for SB runs.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 1:50 pm : link
In comment 17108798 bw in dc said:
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Steve Tisch, it is clearly not Harbaugh's issue or place to get involved in that stuff, right now. His focus is on the team, the team and the team..




I wish this Tisch issue would just keep getting bigger and bigger. The organization needs to be free from his hideous odor. I can only hope the local media keeps the subject alive. But I doubt it.

But it is unfair - to your point - to expect Harbaugh to say anything with substance/criticism. If he did, this thing would blow up. I would enjoy that, but Harbaugh needs to focus on getting the football program built for SB runs.


Ownership is hiding. This is the outcome when you hide, your employees get caught in the crossfire.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 1:50 pm : link
Jordan Raanan
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It's clear how Giants feel about Dexter Lawrence, who is almost out of guaranteed money in his contract.

"Really important. Super, super important," John Harbaugh said. "He's a cornerstone football player. Not really a cornerstone, more like the middlestone.… So we want him in there."
Compared to the anxiety attack...  
bw in dc : 1:58 pm : link
Schoen had at the Harbaugh intro presser, and just his overall demeanor, he is carrying himself like he's definitely got the word he's hear for a few more years.
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ElitoCanton : 2:12 pm : link
Which is why the team needed to put out a statement. Harbaugh should not have been put in this position. It is pathetic.

In comment 17108785 jvm52106 said:
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Steve Tisch, it is clearly not Harbaugh's issue or place to get involved in that stuff, right now. His focus is on the team, the team and the team..
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 2:18 pm : link
In comment 17108832 ElitoCanton said:
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Which is why the team needed to put out a statement. Harbaugh should not have been put in this position. It is pathetic.

In comment 17108785 jvm52106 said:


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Steve Tisch, it is clearly not Harbaugh's issue or place to get involved in that stuff, right now. His focus is on the team, the team and the team..




They did put out a statement. A horrific statement.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 2:18 pm : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Quick takeaways from John Harbaugh's combine presser:

• Harbaugh called senior VP of football operations and strategy Dawn Aponte "the perfect fit" for the job. Harbaugh said her role is all about "integration." He said there can't be silos. Harbaugh, Aponte and GM Joe Schoen will work together to get all of their systems integrated.

• Harbaugh said the combine is important for learning the free agent landscape. Harbaugh said he's not involved in those conversations with agents. "Joe does a great job of that."

• Harbaugh spoke highly of new DC Dennard Wilson. His time with Harbaugh in Baltimore was important. "I wanted to stay in the system. It's a system that we built over a long time. That's the system we'll be continuing to run."

• On fixing the Giants' run defense, which has been a struggle for years: "It's a must thing." Said it'll start with stopping the run and running the football. Once you can do those things, it opens up the playbook.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 2:20 pm : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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Harbaugh said DL Dexter Lawrence is "super important."

"He's a cornerstone football player. He's not really a cornerstone — he's more like the middle stone. He's right in the middle and he's a very big stone and he's a very active, athletic stone. We want him. We need him."
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 2:22 pm : link
Art Stapleton
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John Harbaugh was asked if the current roster gets a clean slate with him. He said, for the most part yes. But not all slates are clean.

Harbs on Andrew Thomas, unsolicited: "You know, the left tackle, I mean, he's got a pretty good slate, you know. I like that slate."
RE: Schoen better be focused on FA  
In comment 17108556 jvm52106 said:
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it starts with legal tampering 03/09 at noon est..


The "illegal" tampering has been going on for a while. *grin*
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jvm52106 : 2:29 pm : link
In comment 17108845 Eric from BBI said:
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Art Stapleton
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John Harbaugh was asked if the current roster gets a clean slate with him. He said, for the most part yes. But not all slates are clean.

Harbs on Andrew Thomas, unsolicited: "You know, the left tackle, I mean, he's got a pretty good slate, you know. I like that slate."


Then there is Banks, that is one damaged Slate..
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Dr. D : 2:53 pm : link
In comment 17108845 Eric from BBI said:
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Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
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John Harbaugh was asked if the current roster gets a clean slate with him. He said, for the most part yes. But not all slates are clean.

Harbs on Andrew Thomas, unsolicited: "You know, the left tackle, I mean, he's got a pretty good slate, you know. I like that slate."

My guess is Hyatt doesn't have a clean slate. More like a slate smeared with 3 yrs worth of caca.
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ElitoCanton : 2:59 pm : link
Tisch put out a statement. There was no statement from the team.

In comment 17108840 Eric from BBI said:
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Which is why the team needed to put out a statement. Harbaugh should not have been put in this position. It is pathetic.

In comment 17108785 jvm52106 said:


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Steve Tisch, it is clearly not Harbaugh's issue or place to get involved in that stuff, right now. His focus is on the team, the team and the team..






They did put out a statement. A horrific statement.
ElitoCanton  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3:06 pm : link
Since he's half owner, I think you can say that was the team's statement. Which is absurd.
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FranknWeezer : 3:58 pm : link
In comment 17108549 Eric from BBI said:
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Charlotte Carroll
@charlottecrrll
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Giants GM Joe Schoen: “I’m still the general manager of the team and my role has not changed.” #giants

BigBlueInteractive
@BigBlueInter
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Except the head coach of the New York Giants is now above him in the organizational chart, rather than the other way around.

JFC... does anyone really believe this shit?


I'm guessing part of the reason they're making this push to clarify/bolster JS' continued role in personnel and in the decision-making process is that if/when it comes time for calls with agents re FA signings and with other GMs re trades, when it's JS who does the reaching out, there's no "put me on with Harbaugh" or "I only want to speak to the boss" types of responses.
FranknWeezer  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4:08 pm : link
I didn't think of that.
It was pretty clearly reported  
UberAlias : 4:25 pm : link
That the process in Baltimore and in NY were the same, and that both sides had agreed to it. Things hit a snag when JH insisted on it being in writing that he had final say. Mara could not understand why it was so important to him because they all agreed for how it should work. Unless you think JH was negotiating on bad faith and mischaracterized the process to get his way, this notion that JS is only a GM in title is just wrong.

Obviously the balance of power has shifted and there was no way JS was coming back without losing power. But the process remains the same and I don't believe the Giants expect to see major differences here in practice. At the end of the day, you need consensus and alignment, not people pulling the title card on every pick.
RE: It was pretty clearly reported  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4:35 pm : link
In comment 17108972 UberAlias said:
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That the process in Baltimore and in NY were the same, and that both sides had agreed to it. Things hit a snag when JH insisted on it being in writing that he had final say. Mara could not understand why it was so important to him because they all agreed for how it should work. Unless you think JH was negotiating on bad faith and mischaracterized the process to get his way, this notion that JS is only a GM in title is just wrong.

Obviously the balance of power has shifted and there was no way JS was coming back without losing power. But the process remains the same and I don't believe the Giants expect to see major differences here in practice. At the end of the day, you need consensus and alignment, not people pulling the title card on every pick.


Correct. Until there is a difference of opinion and Harbaugh makes the call. Also, keep in mind that Aponte is reporting to Harbaugh, and not Schoen. That's a really big deal.
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bw in dc : 4:44 pm : link
In comment 17108950 FranknWeezer said:
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I'm guessing part of the reason they're making this push to clarify/bolster JS' continued role in personnel and in the decision-making process is that if/when it comes time for calls with agents re FA signings and with other GMs re trades, when it's JS who does the reaching out, there's no "put me on with Harbaugh" or "I only want to speak to the boss" types of responses.


Pretty good point. You don't want to give the impression the organization has a lame duck GM who could be gone any day now.

On the other hand, Harbaugh will be very involved in any of their key courtships.
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UberAlias : 4:46 pm : link
In comment 17108983 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 17108972 UberAlias said:


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That the process in Baltimore and in NY were the same, and that both sides had agreed to it. Things hit a snag when JH insisted on it being in writing that he had final say. Mara could not understand why it was so important to him because they all agreed for how it should work. Unless you think JH was negotiating on bad faith and mischaracterized the process to get his way, this notion that JS is only a GM in title is just wrong.

Obviously the balance of power has shifted and there was no way JS was coming back without losing power. But the process remains the same and I don't believe the Giants expect to see major differences here in practice. At the end of the day, you need consensus and alignment, not people pulling the title card on every pick.



Correct. Until there is a difference of opinion and Harbaugh makes the call. Also, keep in mind that Aponte is reporting to Harbaugh, and not Schoen. That's a really big deal.
That is completely true, yes. He conceded scope of power (to Dawn) and organizational authority (to JH). If we're being honest, that was the only thing that made his retention even a little tolerable (to me). The man by any measure doesn't deserve the opportunity he's been given here. He better not screw it up.
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FranknWeezer : 4:49 pm : link
In comment 17108963 Eric from BBI said:
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I didn't think of that.


That's why you pay me the big bucks, E.
I've got  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4:51 pm : link
people on X telling me that nothing has changed at all, that none of this means anything. Schoen still has as much pull as he always has and this deal didn't almost fall apart at the last moment.

People live in their own fantasy worlds.
That's od  
UberAlias : 4:56 pm : link
They've literally gone on record expressing the changes. Virtually every reporter has spoken of the change in org structure.
RE: That's od  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5:00 pm : link
In comment 17109000 UberAlias said:
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They've literally gone on record expressing the changes. Virtually every reporter has spoken of the change in org structure.


Oh no... not to the brain surgeons on X. Nothing has changed and to say otherwise is being a drama queen.

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