If you look at the last 2 offseasons, it seems Schoen just may have gotten the best QB, in addition to Nabers and Carter. That alone has obviously done a lot to change the narrative for him.
Schoen ultimately didn't get the overall job done here as GM, which is why he no longer yields the power of a GM, certainly a traditional Giants GM.
As long as Harbaugh/Aponte oversee him, I have no gripes. And Schoen seems to possess a skillset that the organization can still use. He has a good feel for draft outcomes and maneuvering accordingly. He also seems to be well liked around the league and has a lot of relationships to lean into. For what it's worth, he executed the league required elements of the last HC search in an efficient and productive manner which allowed ownership to seal the deal with Harbaugh uninterrupted and in a timely fashion.
I have little, basically nothing, to complain about as far as the Giants structure right now and that holds true whether Schoen gets an extension or not.
I don't care about whether Schoen stays or goes, or what his job actually is now. Harbaugh runs this show now. You can either trust his decisions or not, but Joe Schoen now serves at the pleasure of the head coach.
Me, I give Harbaugh the benefit of the doubt until he proves otherwise. This might surprise a lot of people given my chronic pessimism, but I'm enjoying having a sunny outlook on this team for the first time in a long time. I'll throw my lot in with the "In Harbaugh We Trust" crowd for now.
some of the same changes that Harbaugh finally imposed, so he and Harbaugh are on the same page.
But as a wise man once said: "A prophet is not without honor, save in his own country, and in his own house." In my experience, being right about stuff your bosses don't want to hear doesn't endear you to them. But if you have a powerful ally, you can survive.
Schoen deserved to go and I guess its a hot take to say this but I like him in a restrained role with a proven coach. More time to focus on scouting and hopefully the poor FA moves get nullified.
I don't care about whether Schoen stays or goes, or what his job actually is now. Harbaugh runs this show now. You can either trust his decisions or not, but Joe Schoen now serves at the pleasure of the head coach.
I feel the same way. As long as Harbaugh has the gavel for final say, Schoen and his staff ostensibly work for Harbaugh and prepare the detailed work/findings on personnel for Harbaugh and his staff.
The interesting piece to me is who initiates trades opportunities. Is Schoen testing the market and then bringing ideas back to Harbaugh? Or is Harbaugh generating the ideas and Schoen then does the legwork?
Schoen has clearly been neutered, despite his assurances to the contrary, and it's completely plausible that he adds value in areas of a GM's responsibilities that we, as fans, don't get to see. Harbaugh's steering the ship, and if he's cool with Schoen being his runner, he gets the benefit of the doubt for now.
I don't care about whether Schoen stays or goes, or what his job actually is now. Harbaugh runs this show now. You can either trust his decisions or not, but Joe Schoen now serves at the pleasure of the head coach.
Me, I give Harbaugh the benefit of the doubt until he proves otherwise. This might surprise a lot of people given my chronic pessimism, but I'm enjoying having a sunny outlook on this team for the first time in a long time. I'll throw my lot in with the "In Harbaugh We Trust" crowd for now.
Cats & Dogs playing together. Mass pandemonium... what's next?! : )
https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/joe-schoen-role-hasnt-changed-153348760.html Business, as usual - ( New Window )
yeah because this team should keep an utter failure who made a hash of everything he touched so nephew Tim has someone to go to dinner with.
Your constant negativity would be more endurable if you actually wrote something interesting to back it up... You've become a grumpy old dude just yelling how everyone sucks. and when you are shown to be flat out wrong, you disappear from the thread.
I don't understand why anyone would be ok with Schoen
Whatever. He's all but GM in name IMO. Harbaugh is the one running the show.
LOl what does that even mean? Do any of you actually work or did you ever work in a collabortive environment, which is just about everywhere in the free world? You knew everything at your job and people under you had no say in anything? Hell no. My boss asks me for help all the time even if that boss has more power than I do. Harbaugh has a lot of power here, more than any other HC in NYG history, that doesn't mean the GM is reduced to a one line joke as some of you seem to believe.
RE: I don't understand why anyone would be ok with Schoen
running scouting and putting together the Giants draft board with his track record for the past 4 years.
Hopefully he will no longer be taking the lead on free agency because he's been even worse at that than drafting.
Here is Joe Schoen's scorecard for his day 1 and day 2 picks. My subjective grades included.
o 2022
o Round 1, Pick No. 5 - Kayvon Thibodeaux = B
o Round 1, Pick No. 7 - Evan Neal = F
o Round 2, Pick No. 43 - Wan'Dale Robinson = C
o Round 3, Pick No. 67 - Joshua Ezeudu = F
o Round 3, Pick No. 81 - Cor'Dale Flott = C
o 2023
o Round 1, Pick No. 24, 160 & 240 – Deonte Banks = F
o Round 2, Pick No. 58 – John Michael Schmitz = D
o Round 3, Pick No. 73 & 128 – Jalin Hyatt = F
o 2024
o Round 1, Pick No. 6 – Malik Nabers = A
o Round 2, Pick No. 47 – Tyler Nubin = D
o Round 3, Pick No. 70 – Andru Phillips = C
o 2025
o Round 1, Pick No. 3 – Abdul Carter = A
o Round 2, Pick No. 25 & 99 – Jaxson Dart = A
o Round 3, Pick No. 65 – Darius Alexander = C
14 total picks, 0 All Pro Players, 0 Pro Bowl players
A = 3
B= 1
C = 4
D = 2
F = 4
Why would anyone feel good about the guy with that report card setting up the Giants draft board for a 5th time?
1997:
Ike Hilliard
Tiki Barber
1998:
Shawn WIlliams
Joe Jurevicious
1999:
Luke PEttigout
JOE MONTGOMERY
2000:
Ron Dayne
Corn Griffin
Ron Dixon
2001:
Will Allen
Will PEterson
2002:
Shockey
NOTHING ELSE
2003:
William Joseph
Osi
I believe you all referred to Ernie as the RUG--and not in an affectionate way.
Enter Coughlin.:
04:
Eli
SNee
05:
(NO FIRST rounder)
Webster
Tuck
Jacobs
06:
Kiwi
Moss (yuck)
Cofield
07:
Everyone helped the team win a super bowl
Harbaugh said this work probably 10 times. He also said something along the lines of you're overthinking this whole final say thing, we're going to disagree until we agree on things. Same goal.
Schoen is the least of our worries. He'swell organized, knows how to use his connections and comms and will have the collegiate and NFL personnel pool of talent well oiled and presentable for the draft and FA and anything in between.
His biggest mistakes here were refusing to fire Daboll after 24 or even hiuring him in the first place, but it led to now, and now is going to be fun. Schoen will be fine. Just watch.
So you're telling me that Joe Schoen is going to be Ernie Accorsi?
after he drafted Eli? I'd sign up for that in a minute.
What have you seen from Joe Schoen that makes you think that's going to happen?
What did Ernie Accorsi do before drafting Eli? His drafts sucked and most of the Giants best players were holdovers from George Young - Strahan, Toomer, Tiki, Ron Stone.
You really can tell which ppl have worked in formal, corporate structures and who hasn't by the tenor of these conversations.
Hint: It isn't a zero sum game.
THANK YOU!
Also, i'm sorry but have to say this is just stubborn thinking and refusal to acknowledge how wrong some of you were about Schoen's mere presence here. How convenient for some to now insist he's GM in name only.
Wasn't Schoen's mere existence here supposed to preclude ANY big name HC from even coming here? NOPE. Then he was going to be fired and drawn and quartered in 16W parking spot. Then allowed to contract expire (to be fair this is still on the table, until he's re-signed we don't know anything for sure) and even some here said Harbaugh was mocking Schoen in public at the first PC. Uhhh NO.
It's gonna be ok folks.
RE: RE: So you're telling me that Joe Schoen is going to be Ernie Accorsi?
after he drafted Eli? I'd sign up for that in a minute.
What have you seen from Joe Schoen that makes you think that's going to happen?
What did Ernie Accorsi do before drafting Eli? His drafts sucked and most of the Giants best players were holdovers from George Young - Strahan, Toomer, Tiki, Ron Stone.
Uh huh...like I said...collaboration. And a better HC here period matters so much more than some of you think.
Also, Schoen drafted Dart, the same Dart who lured HArbaugh here in the first place. Or will you insist it was all Daboll and Schoen's draft prowess mattered not?
Do what worksfor you all. We will win and everyone will be happy.
Lots of BBI poster narratives will need to be re-written
likes working with him and things he can help build the team he wants.
Ernie made big adjustments when Coughlin was hired (draft and FA) prioritizing the OL/Front 7 and improving physicality. TC had the full support of Wellington and JH has it with ownership....for now.
Shortly after Ernie left with Wellington not around anymore the Giants then went back to perimeter focused players. 2007-2012 rounds 1-3 show this. Great destruction of the LoS and the foundation of Giants football was over. Still haven't fully recovered.
after he drafted Eli? I'd sign up for that in a minute.
What have you seen from Joe Schoen that makes you think that's going to happen?
What did Ernie Accorsi do before drafting Eli? His drafts sucked and most of the Giants best players were holdovers from George Young - Strahan, Toomer, Tiki, Ron Stone.
Uh huh...like I said...collaboration. And a better HC here period matters so much more than some of you think.
Also, Schoen drafted Dart, the same Dart who lured HArbaugh here in the first place. Or will you insist it was all Daboll and Schoen's draft prowess mattered not?
Do what worksfor you all. We will win and everyone will be happy.
So what you're saying is that Tom Coughlin turned Ernie Accorsi into a good GM and John Harbaugh will turn Joe Schoen into a good GM.
Got it. What happened from 2010-2015? Tom Coughlin couldn't work his magic with Jerry Reese?
Received one year extension in July 2011.
Received three year new contract after SB win.
Received one year extension in Feb 2014.
Received one year extension in Mar 2015 with a playoff mandate.
Marc Ross promoted after 2012 while numerous coaches would go the next two years. SB Clock installed.
All in on Jerry Reese starting with the 2011 draft and implementation of the Coughlin phase out plan. I believe this was discussed in the numerous TC/JH phone conversations.
RE: RE: Schoen does have skills that got him the job
What did Ernie Accorsi do before drafting Eli? His drafts sucked and most of the Giants best players were holdovers from George Young - Strahan, Toomer, Tiki, Ron Stone.
Why only 2004 and before and only his drafting? Even so that's 3 out of 5 Super Bowl starting offensive linemen (4 if you count his signing of O'Hara and he got KMac the next year) and some other starters...Umenyiora? He had his misses for sure but he built the Super Bowl lines.
running scouting and putting together the Giants draft board with his track record for the past 4 years.
Hopefully he will no longer be taking the lead on free agency because he's been even worse at that than drafting.
I'm far from a Schoen guy, but I would imagine Schoen falls into a very big grouping of GMs with similar overall/blended grades. He's clearly not in the same orbit as current personnel guys like Schneider, Roseman, McClay, Snead, etc.
But now the NYG final personnel FA/draft rankings will have the influence of Harbaugh and his staff. So, Schoen's role is now more of an aggregator/organizer/administrator, and much less about making organization-changing decisions that helped get deeper into this mess.
Harbaugh has final say in this, he's assembled his analytics team, he has the person he trusts to do the cap accounting/contracts. Let's give this this structure at least a year to play out...
Perhaps I don’t articulate this clearly and that’s my bad.
What I’m saying is that I really DGAF if Schoen sticks around or not because, at the end of the day, Harbaugh is calling the shots, not Joe. And I think Aponte is higher up on the food chain than Schoen.
I don't care about whether Schoen stays or goes, or what his job actually is now. Harbaugh runs this show now. You can either trust his decisions or not, but Joe Schoen now serves at the pleasure of the head coach.
Me, I give Harbaugh the benefit of the doubt until he proves otherwise. This might surprise a lot of people given my chronic pessimism, but I'm enjoying having a sunny outlook on this team for the first time in a long time. I'll throw my lot in with the "In Harbaugh We Trust" crowd for now.
Harbaugh said this work probably 10 times. He also said something along the lines of you're overthinking this whole final say thing, we're going to disagree until we agree on things. Same goal.
Schoen is the least of our worries. He'swell organized, knows how to use his connections and comms and will have the collegiate and NFL personnel pool of talent well oiled and presentable for the draft and FA and anything in between.
His biggest mistakes here were refusing to fire Daboll after 24 or even hiuring him in the first place, but it led to now, and now is going to be fun. Schoen will be fine. Just watch.
That was his biggest mistake, huh? It wasn't letting two safeties go because "positional value", it wasn't letting the OPOY go because again "positional value". It wasn't paying a backup qb way over market. (very nice of the Boy Blunder to contribute to the last two Super Bowl winners). It wasn't the shitty drafts. Sweet Jesus, to win 13 games in 3 years, there were multiple errors on top of multiple errors.
The lengths to which this organization will go to construct a Potemkin Village concerning surrender of family control, and the true-blue fans who are willing to oooh and aahh over it are a source of wonder.
Schoen will oversee the personnel, scouting side of house with/really kind of under Harbaughs decision making.
This isn't complicated.
Schoen will oversee the personnel, scouting side of house with/really kind of under Harbaughs decision making.
This isn't complicated.
Pretty much.
It is not surprising that his skill set paired with the other people that Harbaugh has brought in can be a strength for the team.
Schoen ultimately didn't get the overall job done here as GM, which is why he no longer yields the power of a GM, certainly a traditional Giants GM.
As long as Harbaugh/Aponte oversee him, I have no gripes. And Schoen seems to possess a skillset that the organization can still use. He has a good feel for draft outcomes and maneuvering accordingly. He also seems to be well liked around the league and has a lot of relationships to lean into. For what it's worth, he executed the league required elements of the last HC search in an efficient and productive manner which allowed ownership to seal the deal with Harbaugh uninterrupted and in a timely fashion.
I have little, basically nothing, to complain about as far as the Giants structure right now and that holds true whether Schoen gets an extension or not.
Me, I give Harbaugh the benefit of the doubt until he proves otherwise. This might surprise a lot of people given my chronic pessimism, but I'm enjoying having a sunny outlook on this team for the first time in a long time. I'll throw my lot in with the "In Harbaugh We Trust" crowd for now.
But as a wise man once said: "A prophet is not without honor, save in his own country, and in his own house." In my experience, being right about stuff your bosses don't want to hear doesn't endear you to them. But if you have a powerful ally, you can survive.
https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/joe-schoen-role-hasnt-changed-153348760.html
Business, as usual - ( New Window )
I feel the same way. As long as Harbaugh has the gavel for final say, Schoen and his staff ostensibly work for Harbaugh and prepare the detailed work/findings on personnel for Harbaugh and his staff.
The interesting piece to me is who initiates trades opportunities. Is Schoen testing the market and then bringing ideas back to Harbaugh? Or is Harbaugh generating the ideas and Schoen then does the legwork?
It is not surprising that his skill set paired with the other people that Harbaugh has brought in can be a strength for the team.
https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/joe-schoen-role-hasnt-changed-153348760.html Business, as usual - ( New Window )
Me, I give Harbaugh the benefit of the doubt until he proves otherwise. This might surprise a lot of people given my chronic pessimism, but I'm enjoying having a sunny outlook on this team for the first time in a long time. I'll throw my lot in with the "In Harbaugh We Trust" crowd for now.
Cats & Dogs playing together. Mass pandemonium... what's next?! : )
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Bunching up around here again...
https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/joe-schoen-role-hasnt-changed-153348760.html Business, as usual - ( New Window )
yeah because this team should keep an utter failure who made a hash of everything he touched so nephew Tim has someone to go to dinner with.
Your constant negativity would be more endurable if you actually wrote something interesting to back it up... You've become a grumpy old dude just yelling how everyone sucks. and when you are shown to be flat out wrong, you disappear from the thread.
Hopefully he will no longer be taking the lead on free agency because he's been even worse at that than drafting.
Here is Joe Schoen's scorecard for his day 1 and day 2 picks. My subjective grades included.
o 2022
o Round 1, Pick No. 5 - Kayvon Thibodeaux = B
o Round 1, Pick No. 7 - Evan Neal = F
o Round 2, Pick No. 43 - Wan'Dale Robinson = C
o Round 3, Pick No. 67 - Joshua Ezeudu = F
o Round 3, Pick No. 81 - Cor'Dale Flott = C
o 2023
o Round 1, Pick No. 24, 160 & 240 – Deonte Banks = F
o Round 2, Pick No. 58 – John Michael Schmitz = D
o Round 3, Pick No. 73 & 128 – Jalin Hyatt = F
o 2024
o Round 1, Pick No. 6 – Malik Nabers = A
o Round 2, Pick No. 47 – Tyler Nubin = D
o Round 3, Pick No. 70 – Andru Phillips = C
o 2025
o Round 1, Pick No. 3 – Abdul Carter = A
o Round 2, Pick No. 25 & 99 – Jaxson Dart = A
o Round 3, Pick No. 65 – Darius Alexander = C
14 total picks, 0 All Pro Players, 0 Pro Bowl players
A = 3
B= 1
C = 4
D = 2
F = 4
Why would anyone feel good about the guy with that report card setting up the Giants draft board for a 5th time?
LOl what does that even mean? Do any of you actually work or did you ever work in a collabortive environment, which is just about everywhere in the free world? You knew everything at your job and people under you had no say in anything? Hell no. My boss asks me for help all the time even if that boss has more power than I do. Harbaugh has a lot of power here, more than any other HC in NYG history, that doesn't mean the GM is reduced to a one line joke as some of you seem to believe.
Hopefully he will no longer be taking the lead on free agency because he's been even worse at that than drafting.
Here is Joe Schoen's scorecard for his day 1 and day 2 picks. My subjective grades included.
o 2022
o Round 1, Pick No. 5 - Kayvon Thibodeaux = B
o Round 1, Pick No. 7 - Evan Neal = F
o Round 2, Pick No. 43 - Wan'Dale Robinson = C
o Round 3, Pick No. 67 - Joshua Ezeudu = F
o Round 3, Pick No. 81 - Cor'Dale Flott = C
o 2023
o Round 1, Pick No. 24, 160 & 240 – Deonte Banks = F
o Round 2, Pick No. 58 – John Michael Schmitz = D
o Round 3, Pick No. 73 & 128 – Jalin Hyatt = F
o 2024
o Round 1, Pick No. 6 – Malik Nabers = A
o Round 2, Pick No. 47 – Tyler Nubin = D
o Round 3, Pick No. 70 – Andru Phillips = C
o 2025
o Round 1, Pick No. 3 – Abdul Carter = A
o Round 2, Pick No. 25 & 99 – Jaxson Dart = A
o Round 3, Pick No. 65 – Darius Alexander = C
14 total picks, 0 All Pro Players, 0 Pro Bowl players
A = 3
B= 1
C = 4
D = 2
F = 4
Why would anyone feel good about the guy with that report card setting up the Giants draft board for a 5th time?
1997:
Ike Hilliard
Tiki Barber
1998:
Shawn WIlliams
Joe Jurevicious
1999:
Luke PEttigout
JOE MONTGOMERY
2000:
Ron Dayne
Corn Griffin
Ron Dixon
2001:
Will Allen
Will PEterson
2002:
Shockey
NOTHING ELSE
2003:
William Joseph
Osi
I believe you all referred to Ernie as the RUG--and not in an affectionate way.
Enter Coughlin.:
04:
Eli
SNee
05:
(NO FIRST rounder)
Webster
Tuck
Jacobs
06:
Kiwi
Moss (yuck)
Cofield
07:
Everyone helped the team win a super bowl
Notice a pattern?
Hint: It isn't a zero sum game.
Harbaugh said this work probably 10 times. He also said something along the lines of you're overthinking this whole final say thing, we're going to disagree until we agree on things. Same goal.
Schoen is the least of our worries. He'swell organized, knows how to use his connections and comms and will have the collegiate and NFL personnel pool of talent well oiled and presentable for the draft and FA and anything in between.
His biggest mistakes here were refusing to fire Daboll after 24 or even hiuring him in the first place, but it led to now, and now is going to be fun. Schoen will be fine. Just watch.
What have you seen from Joe Schoen that makes you think that's going to happen?
What have you seen from Joe Schoen that makes you think that's going to happen?
What did Ernie Accorsi do before drafting Eli? His drafts sucked and most of the Giants best players were holdovers from George Young - Strahan, Toomer, Tiki, Ron Stone.
Hint: It isn't a zero sum game.
THANK YOU!
Also, i'm sorry but have to say this is just stubborn thinking and refusal to acknowledge how wrong some of you were about Schoen's mere presence here. How convenient for some to now insist he's GM in name only.
Wasn't Schoen's mere existence here supposed to preclude ANY big name HC from even coming here? NOPE. Then he was going to be fired and drawn and quartered in 16W parking spot. Then allowed to contract expire (to be fair this is still on the table, until he's re-signed we don't know anything for sure) and even some here said Harbaugh was mocking Schoen in public at the first PC. Uhhh NO.
It's gonna be ok folks.
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after he drafted Eli? I'd sign up for that in a minute.
What have you seen from Joe Schoen that makes you think that's going to happen?
What did Ernie Accorsi do before drafting Eli? His drafts sucked and most of the Giants best players were holdovers from George Young - Strahan, Toomer, Tiki, Ron Stone.
Uh huh...like I said...collaboration. And a better HC here period matters so much more than some of you think.
Also, Schoen drafted Dart, the same Dart who lured HArbaugh here in the first place. Or will you insist it was all Daboll and Schoen's draft prowess mattered not?
Do what worksfor you all. We will win and everyone will be happy.
Ernie made big adjustments when Coughlin was hired (draft and FA) prioritizing the OL/Front 7 and improving physicality. TC had the full support of Wellington and JH has it with ownership....for now.
Shortly after Ernie left with Wellington not around anymore the Giants then went back to perimeter focused players. 2007-2012 rounds 1-3 show this. Great destruction of the LoS and the foundation of Giants football was over. Still haven't fully recovered.
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after he drafted Eli? I'd sign up for that in a minute.
What have you seen from Joe Schoen that makes you think that's going to happen?
What did Ernie Accorsi do before drafting Eli? His drafts sucked and most of the Giants best players were holdovers from George Young - Strahan, Toomer, Tiki, Ron Stone.
Uh huh...like I said...collaboration. And a better HC here period matters so much more than some of you think.
Also, Schoen drafted Dart, the same Dart who lured HArbaugh here in the first place. Or will you insist it was all Daboll and Schoen's draft prowess mattered not?
Do what worksfor you all. We will win and everyone will be happy.
So what you're saying is that Tom Coughlin turned Ernie Accorsi into a good GM and John Harbaugh will turn Joe Schoen into a good GM.
Got it. What happened from 2010-2015? Tom Coughlin couldn't work his magic with Jerry Reese?
Received three year new contract after SB win.
Received one year extension in Feb 2014.
Received one year extension in Mar 2015 with a playoff mandate.
Marc Ross promoted after 2012 while numerous coaches would go the next two years. SB Clock installed.
All in on Jerry Reese starting with the 2011 draft and implementation of the Coughlin phase out plan. I believe this was discussed in the numerous TC/JH phone conversations.
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He was a great assistant GM in Buffalo from all accounts, has a lot of great GM connections and appears very strong on building internal systems.
It is not surprising that his skill set paired with the other people that Harbaugh has brought in can be a strength for the team.
he sucks. Pays to be buds with a member of the family.
Exactly. Let’s not overthink this. Schoen doesn’t serve at Harbaugh’s pleasure; he serves at The Nephew’s.
Why only 2004 and before and only his drafting? Even so that's 3 out of 5 Super Bowl starting offensive linemen (4 if you count his signing of O'Hara and he got KMac the next year) and some other starters...Umenyiora? He had his misses for sure but he built the Super Bowl lines.
Hopefully he will no longer be taking the lead on free agency because he's been even worse at that than drafting.
I'm far from a Schoen guy, but I would imagine Schoen falls into a very big grouping of GMs with similar overall/blended grades. He's clearly not in the same orbit as current personnel guys like Schneider, Roseman, McClay, Snead, etc.
But now the NYG final personnel FA/draft rankings will have the influence of Harbaugh and his staff. So, Schoen's role is now more of an aggregator/organizer/administrator, and much less about making organization-changing decisions that helped get deeper into this mess.
Harbaugh has final say in this, he's assembled his analytics team, he has the person he trusts to do the cap accounting/contracts. Let's give this this structure at least a year to play out...
Anything bad will because of Schoen's existence on the Giants payroll.
What I’m saying is that I really DGAF if Schoen sticks around or not because, at the end of the day, Harbaugh is calling the shots, not Joe. And I think Aponte is higher up on the food chain than Schoen.
Me, I give Harbaugh the benefit of the doubt until he proves otherwise. This might surprise a lot of people given my chronic pessimism, but I'm enjoying having a sunny outlook on this team for the first time in a long time. I'll throw my lot in with the "In Harbaugh We Trust" crowd for now.
This is where I am as well.
There's a new football CEO in the house.
Harbaugh said this work probably 10 times. He also said something along the lines of you're overthinking this whole final say thing, we're going to disagree until we agree on things. Same goal.
Schoen is the least of our worries. He'swell organized, knows how to use his connections and comms and will have the collegiate and NFL personnel pool of talent well oiled and presentable for the draft and FA and anything in between.
His biggest mistakes here were refusing to fire Daboll after 24 or even hiuring him in the first place, but it led to now, and now is going to be fun. Schoen will be fine. Just watch.
The lengths to which this organization will go to construct a Potemkin Village concerning surrender of family control, and the true-blue fans who are willing to oooh and aahh over it are a source of wonder.